Quantum SCIO-EPFX Scam

  • Posted 23 September 2013

The Quantum SCIO-EPFX or also known as Scio Full Body Scan, or simply SCIO-EPFX is a major scam being used on consumers in South Africa. SCIO stands for Scientific Consciousness Interface Operation system.

Promoters of the product claim the following for it: “The SCIO is a sophisticated and profound energetic medicine system, derived from the SCIO [Quantum Xrroid Consciousness Interface]. It incorporates electro-dermal screening, stress testing and biofeedback. It is a computerized system that both tests and balances the body at the subtle energy level. It integrates the sciences of mathematics, quantum physics, fractal dynamics, subspace theory, electronics, and computer programming. The therapies include the following modalities: naturopathy, homeopathy, acupuncture, chiropractic, energetic medicine, psychology, aromatherapy, reflexology, colour therapy, Neuro- Linguistic Programming, biofeedback and Rife Resonator. It also incorporates knowledge of metaphysical subjects to bring a unique synergistic perspective to natural healing.”

Just reading this should alert consumers that this is fruitloopery, and contrary to the principles of physics and physiology. However, do not take my word for it – read on…


An entire expose was done on this device by the Seattle Times: Part 1

Miracle Machines | The 21st-century snake oil

They can cure cancer, reduce cholesterol, end allergies, treat cavities, kill parasites and even eliminate AIDS. “Energy medicine” devices can…


The EPFX’s slick and sophisticated graphics may impress, but no scientific research shows that energy machines can diagnose or cure medical problems. Still, clients may pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for treatments with practitioners. This session was at the Puyallup Fair.

They can cure cancer, reduce cholesterol, end allergies, treat cavities, kill parasites and even eliminate AIDS.

“Energy medicine” devices can be as small as a television remote control, or as large as a steamer trunk.

Their operators say the devices work by transmitting radio frequencies or electromagnetic waves through the body, identifying problems, then “zapping” them.

Their claims are a fraud — the 21st-century version of snake oil. But a Seattle Times investigation has discovered that thousands of these unproven devices — many of them illegal or dangerous — are found in hundreds of venues nationwide, from the Puyallup Fair, to health-care clinics in Florida, to an 866-bed regional hospital in Missouri.

These are not the devices in wide use by medical doctors, such as electrical stimulators used for sports injuries. Nor are they the biofeedback devices used at respected alternative-medicine centers such as Seattle’s Bastyr University. Rather, these are boxes of wires purported to perform miracles. Their manufacturers and operators capitalize on weak government oversight and the nation’s hunger for alternative therapies to reap millions of dollars in profits while exploiting desperate people:

  • In Tulsa, Okla., a woman suffering from unexplained joint pain was persuaded to avoid doctors and rely on an energy device for treatment. Seven months later, her son took her to a hospital. She died within hours from undiagnosed leukemia.
  • In Los Angeles, a mother pulled her 5-month-old son out of chemotherapy for cancer and took him to a clinic where a 260-pound machine pulsed electromagnetic waves through his tiny body. The baby died within months.
  • In Seattle, a retiree with cancer emptied her bank account to buy an energy machine. Shortly before she died, her husband, a retired Microsoft manager, examined its software, finding that it appeared to generate results randomly — “a complete fraud,” he said.

Over the past year, The Times investigated these machines and the people behind them.

The investigation took us to where the manufacturers of some of these machines are based, in Hungary and Greece. We found the operators — including a cross-dressing federal fugitive who moonlights as a cabaret singer — making outrageous claims as they peddled their wares. We discovered that the U.S. regulatory system has allowed them to flood this nation with an estimated 40,000 devices.

And we learned that many operators consider our state a safe haven for these “miracle machines.”



From the Seattle Times: Part 2

How one man’s invention is part of a growing worldwide scam that snares the desperately ill

What does “FDA registered” mean? Not much The FDA registers manufacturers of energy-medicine devices — not the products. Many manufacturers submit basic…

By Michael J. Berens and Christine Willmsen

Seattle Times staff reporters


Bill Cunningham, William Nelson’s longtime friend, leads a Budapest training session while a volunteer has her health “examined” by placing her hand on the EPFX. She was judged healthy. Nelson claims the device can analyze samples such as hair, saliva or blood from a patient, then transmit healing frequencies. But these claims violate FDA regulations. Clients also are often encouraged to buy the company’s nutritional supplements.

In the late 1980s, an out-of-work math instructor in Colorado built an electronic device he claimed could diagnose and destroy disease — everything from allergies to cancer — by firing radio frequencies into the body.

But the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, which regulates medical devices, ordered William Nelson to quit selling his machine and making false claims. Nelson refused, and he was indicted on felony fraud charges. He fled the country, never to return.

That should have been the unremarkable end of another peddler of medical miracles.

Today, Nelson, 56, orchestrates one of America’s boldest health-care frauds from a century-old building in Budapest, Hungary. Protected by barred gates, surveillance cameras and guards, he rakes in tens of millions of dollars selling a machine used to exploit the vulnerable and desperately ill.

This device is called the EPFX. In the U.S. alone, Nelson has sold more than 10,000 of them. More have been sold in the Northwest than in any other region, company officials said.

Nelson built his business by recruiting a sales force of physicians, chiropractors, nurses and thousands of unlicensed providers, from homemakers to retirees, drawn by the promise of easy money.

Nelson is just one profiteer, with one device.

A Seattle Times investigation has uncovered a global network of manufacturers who sell unproven devices, and practitioners who prey on unsuspecting patients.

Capitalizing on weak government oversight, they have used these devices — some illegal, others potentially dangerous — to drain patients’ bank accounts, misdiagnose diseases, and divert critically ill people from life-saving care.

These victims are casualties in the growing field called “energy medicine” — alternative therapies based on the belief that the body has energy fields that can be manipulated to improve health. Energy devices range from handheld machines the size of television remotes to behemoth machines that weigh hundreds of pounds, with costs ranging from $1,200 to $55,000.

Many manufacturers and operators do follow FDA rules and disclose that treatments are unproven.

But The Times’ investigation, based on government records and more than 200 interviews, found thousands who skirt the law. Among its findings:

  • FDA officials do not know how many energy-medicine devices exist, where they are used and even whether they are safe. Ten years ago, Congress reduced medical-device oversight. Ever since, most energy-device manufacturers who register with the FDA submit little more than basic contact information.
  • Federal and state regulators failed to warn the public about a dangerous energy device, the PAP-IMI, which is linked to patient injuries and death. Nor did they confiscate all of the devices, which pulse the body with strong electromagnetic waves. They had been smuggled into the country as seed germinators. The PAP-IMI remains in use today in at least five states, including Washington.
  • Many energy-medicine operators dupe the public by posing as highly trained health-care professionals through the use of deceptive credentials and unaccredited degrees. Some of the largest and seemingly independent credentialing organizations are in fact controlled by two men who run competing mail-order operations.

FDA spokeswoman Karen Riley said the agency is looking into the EPFX, based on The Times’ findings.

Medical charlatans have used energy devices in this country for more than a century.

In the past decade, the machines exploded into the mainstream, fueled by the Internet, which quickly and cheaply reached prospective buyers and patients.

Today, dozens of energy-device manufacturers present flashy Web sites with video testimonials and fake science.

“The message itself has stayed the same for centuries: ‘This is the cure that I discovered and it’s backed with testimonials from lots of people snatched from the grave by using it,’ ” said James Whorton, professor of medical history at the University of Washington’s School of Medicine.

The National Institutes of Health says research in the area of energy medicine may hold promise, but so far none of the devices, or their treatments, has been scientifically validated.

“Undoubtedly, there’s a lot of quackery,” Whorton said. “They will tell you what you want to hear. The average person isn’t educated or trained to be able to evaluate these therapies critically.”

Couple’s final hope

In a clinic in Tulsa, Okla., JoAnn Burggraf, 58, sat in an oversized armchair as she was hooked up to an EPFX.

Clinic owner Sigrid Myers, who was trained on the device in Seattle, wrapped black straps containing electrodes around Burggraf’s forehead, wrists and ankles. The straps were connected to the shoe-box-sized EPFX, which plugged into a desktop computer.

Myers used the EPFX to scan and analyze Burggraf’s body. Burggraf watched as the monitor displayed bright-colored graphics representing parts of her body that Myers said were unhealthy.

Then, Myers recounted, she set the EPFX to “zap mode” and transmitted imperceptible, low-level frequencies through the electrodes and into Burggraf’s body.

She and her husband, Jerry Burggraf, owned a successful cleaning and restoration company in Tulsa. He developed leukemia and underwent chemotherapy. In 2004, he began EPFX treatments, hoping to stop the disease.

He died in March 2005 at age 59.

Her husband endured painful side effects from the chemotherapy. After that, she distrusted doctors.

She started EPFX sessions, at $60 an hour, seeking relief from pain in her joints and legs.

“I begged her to go to the hospital,” her son, Bryan Burggraf, 37, said. “Mom told me this device would make her well.”

But her pain grew worse, becoming so intense that she frequently blacked out. In October 2005, Bryan finally convinced his mother that she needed to go to a hospital immediately. She was so weak and sick, with inflamed, open sores on her legs, that she eventually had to be transported by helicopter.

She died within hours of admission. Tests showed that her body had been devastated by undiagnosed leukemia.

Her son said doctors speculated that his parents were exposed to now-banned solvents used in their restoration business.

“I’m outraged that this fraudulent device is still out there,” Burggraf said. “If my mom had gone to the hospital earlier there may have been hope. If nothing else, she would not have died in incredible pain.”

Myers, a massage therapist, has no formal medical training or college degree. But on the wall of her home clinic were half a dozen framed certificates that bestowed her with health-care titles and credentials such as “naturopathic doctor.”

“We’re not supposed to say it, legally, but it can zap away disease,” she told a reporter who visited the clinic. Asked why the EPFX did not cure JoAnn Burggraf, Myers tearfully explained: “I had just a few days of training. I really didn’t know what I was doing.”

Now she says she’s more experienced.

Myers continues to treat patients in her home office with a newer EPFX. She persuaded an elderly patient to buy the machine for her, which cost $12,000. In exchange, Myers said, she didn’t charge the woman for EPFX sessions to treat her heart disease.

That patient died, too.

Performer, pretender

Last year, at an international EPFX conference in Budapest, William Nelson bounded to a stage in front of a cheering crowd of several hundred — operators of the machine or those hoping to buy one. They rose to their feet and applauded.

He explained how he had used the EPFX to cure cancer and AIDS.

“It helps that I’m a genius,” he told them.

But nothing is what it appears with Nelson, including his appearance. On stage, he wore a white dress, heels and heavy makeup.

“Judge the teaching, not the teacher,” he told the crowd in a soothing baritone. Nelson is a polished performer — funny, confident, commanding the tools of a natural-born salesman.

Later, under his stage name Desiré Dubounet, he sang rock songs at his lounge, Club Bohemian Alibi.

This is the Nelson that few patients ever learn about.

From his restored, five-story building in downtown Budapest, Nelson operates the main EPFX business, Eclosion, and lives with his fifth wife and 8-year-old son. He has a personal staff of about a dozen, including a cook, hairdresser, nanny, security guards and chauffeurs.

From his movie production studio, he has created films that portray him as the crusader of alternative medicine and the FDA as the corrupt villain.

He said he has sold 17,000 EPFX devices worldwide. They now cost $19,900 each.

Nelson makes extraordinary claims about his life. He said he worked as a contractor for NASA, helping to save the troubled Apollo 13 mission as a teenager. He boasts that he was an alternate member of the 1968 U.S. Olympic gymnastics team. He says he has eight doctorates, including degrees in medicine and law. See a PDF of his Curriculum Vitae here.

None of it checks out. NASA has no record of his employment; he was not an Olympic athlete. And his “degrees” came from unaccredited schools and mail-order businesses.

In truth, at age 33, Nelson was a part-time mathematics instructor at Youngstown State University in Ohio, according to school records.

As an avid “Star Trek” fan and father of an autistic son, Nelson became obsessed with creating a space-age device that melded modern mathematics with alternative therapies to heal the body.

In 1984, he moved his family to Colorado, where he started to sell his homemade medical device, called the Electro-Physio-Feedback-Xrroid System, or the EPFX.

Nelson registered his company with the FDA in 1989 as a maker of biofeedback machines, meaning he could sell them only as stress-relieving tools. By law, he could not claim the devices diagnosed or treated disease.

But Nelson did it anyway. In 1992, the agency ordered him to stop making false claims, then later ordered a recall of the EPFX. But Nelson continued to sell it as a healing machine.

He was indicted on nine counts of felony fraud in 1996 and fled the U.S. See a PDF of Nelson’s court docket here.

Eclosion remains registered with the FDA.

Today, Nelson’s sales empire reaches across 32 countries with dozens of distributors, brokers and trainers in the U.S. Top sellers can get hefty commissions, tropical cruises and BMW sedans.

Emma Robinson, a regional manager for the Pacific Northwest, earned one of the BMWs. She said she pulls in about $7,000 a week through sales commissions and by treating patients at her clinic, Quantum Pacific Wellness Center, in Wilderville, Ore.

Nelson and his distributors saturate the Internet with glitzy Web sites packed with animation, music, videos, even operators available to answer questions.

EPFX sales have exploded, fueled by aggressive marketing including such pitchmen as a physician for pop star Britney Spears and a chiropractor for cyclist Lance Armstrong.

As Nelson tells his audiences: Conventional doctors speed patients through appointments with treatments that focus only on symptoms, not on the root causes of ailments. The EPFX treats the whole body, and it does it without surgery or drugs.

Practitioners encourage patients to talk with them about any health problem. EPFX treatments typically last an hour. Afterward, a substantial number of patients will report that they feel better.

Energy-device operators benefit from the placebo effect, a psychological phenomenon in which patients report improvement that cannot be linked scientifically to treatment, studies show. People feel better through the power of suggestion or because they believe they are expected to feel improvement, experts say.

The EPFX is made up of circuit boards and other computer components that run software full of colorful graphics of the body. During a typical EPFX treatment, a patient may watch as a computer screen displays an animation of the interior of an artery blocked by white blobs, representing cholesterol. Then the blobs shrink and disappear.

Tens of thousands have found Nelson’s pitch persuasive. “Traditional doctors don’t want you to use the EPFX,” he says. “They will tell you it’s a fraud. That’s because they are scared. I have discovered something that will put them out of business. And they don’t want you to have it.”

His fervor is shared by Emma Robinson’s husband, John, also an EPFX regional sales manager. He says the device can do most anything.

“It’s the closest thing to God I know.”

Honor-system loophole

In 1997, Congress passed the Food and Drug Administration Modernization Act, which made it cheaper and quicker to bring a device to market.

Consequently, the number of energy-device makers has increased to 462, up 45 percent in the past decade, according to a Times analysis.

The act also exempted many manufacturers of low-risk devices from submitting proof that the machines worked and were safe.

The agency places them on the honor system when it comes to classifying their devices. As a result, a popular strategy for some manufacturers is to list their devices as biofeedback machines. Legally, they can only be used to relieve stress.

But The Times found dozens of biofeedback machines that are marketed to the public with wild claims. Some examples:

  • Practitioners using the LIFE System, distributed by Energetic Medicine Research Ltd., offer patients a “full diagnostic and treatment system.” They claim the devices can assess the health of organs and “clear health blocks,” from allergies to dental problems.
  • Hippocampus-Brt Ltd., a Hungarian company registered with the FDA, declares that its Mobile Cell-Com can treat allergies through short “therapy sessions,” strengthen the body’s immune system and relieve inflammatory ailments.
  • California-based Inergetix Inc. sells the Inergetix-CoRe System that can “scan and balance the organs and systems of the body.”

Additionally, health improvements are shown on a computer screen “as they occur.”

Installed in a hospital

Three years ago, EPFX operators scored one of their biggest coups: They managed to get two devices inside a U.S. hospital — St. John’s Hospital, an 866-bed facility in Springfield, Mo.

Nelson markets this as proof that mainstream medicine embraces the EPFX.

On Friday, hospital administrators launched an investigation into how the EPFX machines got approved. They learned about their presence from The Times.

Faith Nelson, a registered nurse who works in the department where the devices are used, is also a regional sales manager for the EPFX, records show. (She is no relation to William Nelson.)

In addition, Susan Blackard, a hospital vice president who oversees that department, conducts training sessions for EPFX operators worldwide, records show.

Blackard, who is also a registered nurse, trained several hundred people at a conference last year in Budapest.

Neither woman returned calls for comment.

St. John’s spokeswoman Cora Scott said the hospital is reviewing the employees’ relationship to Nelson and the EPFX sales network.

The hospital is owned by the Sisters of Mercy Health System. Officials there said the two EPFX devices were used only for stress relief.

One operator cut off, case closed

Washington state regulators first learned about the EPFX in April 2004 when a Puyallup physician filed a complaint that an unlicensed health-care practitioner in Tacoma was using one.

State investigator John Kozar checked out the complaint, interviewing Janet Zibell, who used the EPFX at her spa.

At the same time, Kozar learned that other EPFX operators across the state were using it. In May 2004, Kozar wrote to his superiors: “This device is being used by unlicensed people to treat and diagnose patients with illnesses.”

Zibell told state investigators that she used the EPFX only as a biofeedback machine to help relieve stress, according to state records. In Washington and all states, no license is required to perform biofeedback.

To show investigators how she used the device, Zibell conducted an EPFX session at Department of Health headquarters in Olympia. Zibell connected the EPFX to state investigator Carol Neva. During the demonstration, Zibell said the device detected a parasitic worm in Neva’s colon so she “zapped a worm” with the device’s electrical frequencies.

That was enough for investigators. Zibell was issued a cease-and-desist order. She agreed not to use the EPFX to diagnose or treat illness. The Health Department stopped there, closing the case. It did not look into the other EPFX operators Kozar warned about, records show.

In Oregon, regulators took a far different approach.

The Oregon Board of Chiropractic Examiners earlier this year barred chiropractors from using the EPFX. “This device is complete hocus-pocus,” the board’s executive director, Dave McTeague, said. “There is no rational explanation as to how it works.”

Karen McBeth’s losses

Seattle cancer patient Karen McBeth, 59, had no trouble finding an EPFX operator. A retired employee with state Juvenile Rehabilitation Administration, McBeth had squamous-cell carcinoma that mushroomed into terminal bone cancer. She underwent chemotherapy. By early 2005, she was in so much pain that she could barely walk.

Desperate for a cure, she looked for an alternative and through friends learned of BioScience, a health-care clinic in Port Orchard that offered EPFX treatments. BioScience was run by Robert and Marie Erdmann, and their daughter, Ann Riner. None of them had a state health-care license. McBeth was skeptical at first. But she did some Internet research and learned the device manufacturer was registered with the FDA and that dozens of physicians and chiropractors touted the device.

She began twice-weekly treatments. She was even persuaded to buy a machine for use at home, and spent $17,000 from her retirement savings.

“She was led to believe that treatment would cure her cancer,” said her husband, Al Bergstein.

By the summer, she began to doubt whether the device was effective. She died Sept. 3, 2005.

Read McBeth’s Seattle Times obituary here and a Web site in her memory.

Bergstein said the device offered a false hope that consumed his wife and robbed the family of precious remaining time with her.

A retired Microsoft manager, Bergstein looked at the source code in the EPFX’s software. It appeared to generate results randomly.

“It’s a complete fraud,” he said.

Marie Erdmann, 64, who now manages the clinic since the death of her husband last year, defended the EPFX. “It’s where medicine will go, but it will take a long time,” she predicted.

A cure for everything

The world’s largest EPFX distributor, The Quantum Alliance, is headquartered in Calgary, Alberta. It also operates its largest North American training center in Victoria, B.C., not far from Seattle.

Ken Wilkinson, chief executive officer, said the company does not market the EPFX as a diagnostic or healing machine.

However, dozens of such claims are found in the company’s brochures and newsletters. For example, one brochure, used by a Washington practitioner this year, claimed that the EPFX can test for toxins, bacteria, viruses, allergens, parasites and disease.

In addition, The Quantum Alliance distributed a training video, narrated by Nelson, that claimed the EPFX can repair injured tissue and accelerate healing.

Wilkinson said the company no longer uses these materials. The EPFX is marketed only as a stress-relief tool, he said.

But a training newsletter, published last month by The Quantum Alliance, provided step-by-step instructions on how to use the EPFX to enlarge lips or cheeks and treat dental problems.

Company President Brian Thompson said the EPFX has “helped thousands of people.” He couldn’t explain what the device does or how it works. “We just sell them,” Thompson said.

Hundreds of other brokers and practitioners sell the device as well, earning up to $2,500 in commissions per sale. Dozens of their Web sites tout testimonials of miraculous healings and declare that the EPFX can provide hundreds of therapies.

One of its strangest features is found on top of the EPFX: a 5-inch silver plate. Nelson claims the device can detect problems in the body by analyzing hair, saliva or blood placed on the plate. The device then fires healing frequencies to patients — even if they’re hundreds of miles away.

A taunt to regulators

The EPFX was a big draw at this year’s Western Washington Fair in Puyallup. Bart Keough, owner of The Healing Circle Counseling in Eatonville, Pierce County, ran a booth where more than 400 people were treated. They were charged $20 for a half-hour session.

Keough calls himself a “certified biofeedback specialist,” a certification he earned from a mail-order training program. He said he has to be careful about how to describe the EPFX to avoid hassles with the FDA.

“We’re told not to tell anyone that it heals anything,” he said.

But a 4-foot-long banner that draped his booth listed dozens of “Therapies” the EPFX could provide. Keough admitted the EPFX contains many therapies that go beyond what the FDA allows. “I don’t know how Bill Nelson gets by with it,” he said.

In Budapest, Nelson doesn’t worry about the FDA. In the past year, he established companies that are bringing in new products and devices into the United States.

He also has produced a music video in which he sings in front of a giant image of FDA headquarters. Nelson’s song ends with a taunt to the regulators: “You ain’t seen nothing yet.”

Staff reporter Sonia Krishnan and researchers David Turim and Gene Balk contributed to this report.

Michael J. Berens: 206-464-2288 or [email protected]; Christine Willmsen: 206-464-3261 or [email protected]

[box title=”What is energy medicine?” box_color=”#fccfcf” title_color=”#ffffff”]Practitioners of energy medicine believe that illness results from disturbances of energy fields in the body. These fields, however, have not been proved to exist by scientific means. Some practitioners also use electronic devices that they claim interact with the body’s energy fields through the use of frequencies and wave lengths, such as electromagnetism, sound and light. Other devices purport to interact with the body’s cells to reduce pain or inflammation. The National Institutes of Health’s National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine reports that while some energy devices may hold promise, none have provided scientific evidence to substantiate that they work. Source: National Institutes of Health[/box]


Quackwatch has a reasonably thorough history of the device.

Here are South African Websites that promote or sell the Scio:

11 comments to Quantum SCIO-EPFX Scam

  • Anne Marie Bezdrob

    I have received SCIO treatments from different therapists over a period of more than ten years and know dozens of people who prescribe to the treatment, from children to people of advanced age. This is a modern miracle and the only reason why it is criticised by the medical fraternity is because it is a threat to the financial benefits they reap from managing disease – as opposed to curing and healing. I can write a book about the incredible benefits of using SCIO. I would be very interested to see whether you include this comment on your website.

    • Harris

      @Anne Marie
      This test still remains a scam. The fact that many people believe that a product works for them, does not mean that it truly does – similar to people believing that a product ‘works’ for flu when in fact the disease resolves after a few days on its own. Anecdotal evidence does not equal data or effective evidence, only belief. People believe that Vitamin C reduces or prevents ‘colds’ yet study after study has shown this to not be true.
      See here for Placebo effect, Regression to the Mean, Confirmation bias, Logical fallacies, etc.

    • Bridgette

      Placebo effect “a beneficial effect produced by a placebo drug or treatment, which cannot be attributed to the properties of the placebo itself, and must therefore be due to the patient’s belief in that treatment.”
      And no , medical practitioners are not threatened by this. It’s hocus pocus and we’ve yet to lose a patients to it’s healing effects.

  • Anne Marie Bezdrob

    ‘There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know’.

    • Harris

      @Anne Marie
      Seems to apply to you?!

      I have seen a number of patients who had this test conducted on them: not only did the test not help, but it resulted in me investigating it further – the theory, and the actual system. Fruitloopery at best, scam at worst – not because it does not fit in with “my paradigm”, but because it’s principles and methods are contrary to physics, chemistry and physiological processes which has been extensively studied, well worked out, and properly documented.

      If you were truly objective, I would ask you to consider this: if this test worked so well, why is it utilised by so few ‘practitioners’? All the health professionals I know, really, really want to help their patients and are open to utilising any test that actually works.

      Saying that, if it works for you – wonderful!

  • Lizelle Louw

    Is it not just a diagnostic device? I had a scan done and in no instance was it used as a treatment. Normal herbal medicines are
    prescribed to normalize what ever is not in balance.

    • Harris

      You are correct, it is not a treatment but a diagnostic device – but not worth anything, i.e., if will miss important conditions and diagnose conditions you do not have. So treatment will be wrong, or simply ‘supportive’ and not for the real problem you have.

    • Wynand du Plessis

      do the maths!!! 32trillion cells in human body. max USB2 speed 60megabytes per second. if only 1 byte per cell is “transmitted” to the scanning device computer, it would take 200 hours to transmit data for every cell. this data must then contain information about celltype tissue type organ type system type as well as location and pathology. absolutely mathematically impossible. when the device first appeared many years ago, it was connected via RS232 serial port with max 115000 bps transfer speed, making it even more ridiculous in its claims.

  • Kimberly Call

    What about Ondamed machines? Have you investigated them?

  • Alex

    We visited friends this week end, the first friends we dine with after things became more relaxed after the country moved to lockdown level 1. Our friends are firm believers in the SCIO machine and go for regular sessions at a therapist. We humor them, because we don’t want to spoil a friendship just because of different beliefs.
    However, one of them claimed that she feels absolutely wonderful after a recent SCIO session and was declared ” 100% covid free”.
    To say the least, I found this unsettling. Is this even legal!? Can’t be! Almost as unsettling was when they told us that your first session “only” costs
    R2 000.00

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