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Simply Slim = Supreme Slim?

     

I was told about a new product called Supreme Slim the other day. See: http://www.supremeslim.co.za/

At the bottom of the webpage it states that the Chairman and CEO of Wellness Forever which is marketing Supreme Slim is Charles Bothma. Near the top of the page it gives a cell number for orders: 079 108 1182

If you check out an old webpage of Simply Slim: http://www.simplyslim.co.za/index.php?option=com_sobi2&catid=27&Itemid=90  you will see that there's a Charles Bothma with the same cell number: 0791081182  Registered Number: S1141.

It turns out that these are different products, and Supreme Slim was brought out by an Charles Bothma who worked for the notorious Simply Slim company but started marketing his newly developed product while working for that company!

The original Supreme Slim webpage — made virtually identical claims to the original claims made by Simply Slim including not needing exercise and also no special diet.

Is there any robust proof that this product works?  Of course not! A complaint has been laid with the ASA.

23 comments to Simply Slim = Supreme Slim?

  • Jc

    Looks like this dr. has sour grapes?? I know for a fact that Mr Charles Botha was an agent for Simply Slim and one of the best in the country,  they discharged him as agent when they found out that he started his own product while they were down!!! So meneer dokter, kry jou feite reg voor jy iemand blame!! Just my2c
    Ps. Supreme Slim works very well, i've lost 3.9kg in almost 2 weeks!! Try to beat THAT!!!

    • Harris

      This posting is interesting for if raises a few pertinent points:

      1. 1. As over 95% of weight-loss products are no more than scams, what are the ethics or morals of individuals involved in these products?
      2. 2. According to JC, Mr Charles Botha was discharged as an agent when Simply Slim found out that he started his own product while working for Simply Slim. Seems unethical to start your own company selling a competing product behind the back of your present employers.
      3. 3. Losing “3.9kg in almost 2 weeks” is not only very unlikely, but extremely unhealthy even if true!! (Until JC proves this, one has to assume that it is a lie.)
      4. 4. There is no proof that Supreme Slim works, and there is no proof that the individual ingredients will result in weight loss.
      5. 5. Is it possible that JC lost weight as claimed – and if so, can one therefore claim that others will lose weight? A student completing her Masters degree is completing a study of a well-known local weight-loss-product: a similar amount of weight was lost by a similar percent of people in the group taking a placebo as that of the group taking the real tablets, i.e., some people will lose weight whether taking a placebo or the real tablet. This occurs for a number of reasons, e.g., once individuals are focused on their weight, they may change their eating patterns (some may call this a placebo response, but the weight-loss is real, for a real reason (and not because of the product)). This response can occur in 10-30% of individuals. Therefore, knowing that say 10% of individuals may lose weight from this type of response, is it ethical to claim that this is possible for all?! This is why a proper study is absolutely essential before any claims are made for a product.
      6. 6. Is possible that JC is not someone who has actually lost weight, but a stooge trawling Internet sites trying to promote Supreme Slim! (Happens all the time!)

      Read more of amazing “Placebo-like” responses!

  • Andre

    Supreme slim is a GREAT product , go through the website properly before making nasty comments in the Home page they explain the product after the lies and deception of previous products!!! Drew

  • Harris

    Drew, I am scientist who has looked carefully at the evidence, and there is simply ziltch evidence that it works! I have looked at the website, very carefully, and frankly, there is no evidence to confirm that the product has any use. Read

    http://www.camcheck.co.za/supreme-slim-2/

    to get a real eye full of the evidence against this product! And until you can supply proof that the product works, stay away from commenting! No, not user opinions, but absolute proof for until proof is supplied, then this type of product should be regarded as nothing more than a scam.

  • FJW

    Hi All. Charles developed the product with Pharmacare in Midrand. This is a total different company and product and as you know the counttry is still reeling from the allegations on SimplySlim.
    For the rcord, the two products are totally different, Simply Slim was imported, SupremeSlim developed in South Africa. Total different ingredients. Different companies.
    I have a personal interest in SupremeSlim and want to put the record straight, as the public need to have facts, not nuances.
    Dr Harris has laid numerous complaints for different products at ASA which is his right as a citizen. Could we act civilized about this.
    FJW
     
     
    FJW
     
     

  • Helen

    Simply Slim also marketing tablets under New Me so be careful. I didn’t have a good experience with Simply Slim came very close to having a major heart attack!

  • FJW

    New Me is a Nativa product. Can we deal in facts.

  • Harris

    The manufacturers of Simply Slim allegedly supplied the same formulation to a competitor – which was sold as Neu-Me or New Me by a pharmacy group in Pretoria. The Nativa product is called New You and is a meal replacement product. (http://www.nativa.co.za/)

  • Simply Slim NEVER sold tablets under another name!!!

  • Harris

    The local Simply Slim company may not have sold tablets under another name, but the Chinese supplier to the local Simply Slim company also supplied the exact same formula to other marketers who marketed the "same" product under a different name. (Evidence was supplied to the Medicines Control Council)

  • The manufacturers of Simply Slim allegedly supplied the same formulation to a competitor

  • Harris

    Testimony from the expert witness: ". . . His MO puzzled me and I looked a bit closer at this issue. The client then produced a entire file of e-mails received from the factory in China on which a variety of things were communicated, such as quantities shipped, estimated arrival times, customs contact details and the like. The interesting fact was that the owners and a variety of the agents of Simply Slim were CC’d on the same e-mails and included details of the shipments to that group as well."

    "I therefore took a sample of the product that my client had imported to the SABS and requested a screening by the Pharmaceutical lab to look for sibutramine. I went further and bought a random box of Simply Slim from one of the agents of Simply Slim and submitted it to the SABS, together with a box of Reductil 10mg (Abbott) as reference sample. Interestingly enough, both the sample that my client supplied and the Simply Slim tested positive for sibutramine, but a twice the strength of that in Reductil."

  • Lance

    Hi Dr. Steinberg
    Please can you advise me where this extract of quoted testimony emanates from?

  • Harris

    I suggest that you contact the Medicine Control Council. I trust my source and have copies of the documents he supplied to the MCC. If the MCC are prepared to give you copies of the originals, that is their prerogative. Lance, I see you do the PR for Simply Slim. When are they going to admit to the harm that they caused to many consumers? The silence is deafening.

  • Ogies

    All I want to know is if there is a product, regardless of the name, with EXACTLY the same ingredients as the original Simply Slim?  There never has and never will be anything better than that.  I lost 12kg in 6weeks without any side effects.  so I guess like with anything else, some things work for you and others don't…….

  • Harris

    No, there is not. The original had a scheduled medicine which may be safe for some individuals, but high risk for others.

  • Ogies

    Then there should be quite a number of medicines taken off the market, as they are high risk for some people. 
    It's just sad that something that worked so well for a lot of people, had to be taken away.  why not make it a schedule 5/6 like Thinz and all the other non-working diet pills?

  • Lea

    I want whatever works as well as simply slim! Loved it!

    • Harris

      Lea may be a perfect example of what concerns us about diet pills – she claims that Simply Slim worked for her, but then why is she looking for diet pills again? Because as soon as you stop using them, you gain weight (if they worked in the first place). The best and ONLY diet that works is changing your eating style, with the aid of a dietitian would help.

  • nanni

    I want some simply sslm, it worked for me!!!! Where can I find some or supreme slim then?

  • Lea

    Because after having 2 babies who are under 2 1/2 it’s a battle and free time is a luxury which I dont have… I need a kickstart and a bit of motivation ok!!! I lost all my pregnancy weight and more after baby no 1 without diet pills by the way! Stop judging people!

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